• Wasting time in MI

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Wednesday, February 26, 2025 07:31:04
    I read that 7 Republican state house members in Michigan are sponsoring a resolution to challenge the USSC's decision on equal marriage, arguing that their state's constitution that states that "marriage is a union between a man and a woman."

    There's a lot wrong with this picture:
    1) It's beyond ignorant to threaten the rights of gay people
    2) All this does is gives Whitmer an opportunity to look like a hero
    3) With all the problems in today's world, this is what they focus on?
    4) They can't tell the USSC what to do, and they're totally just wasting time. 5) As the headline makes its rounds, this hurts Republicans as a whole

    I was delighted to learn that MI's state house has a Republican majority, but it sounds like it's a herd of rinos inside a porcelain shop.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, February 27, 2025 07:10:33
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    I read that 7 Republican state house members in Michigan are sponsoring
    a resolution to challenge the USSC's decision on equal marriage,
    arguing that their state's constitution that states that "marriage is a union between a man and a woman."

    I have not heard this. I just did a real quick on michiganvotes.org and saw nothing related to marriage.

    There's a lot wrong with this picture:
    1) It's beyond ignorant to threaten the rights of gay people
    2) All this does is gives Whitmer an opportunity to look like a hero

    That will never happen no matter what.

    3) With all the problems in today's world, this is what they focus on?
    4) They can't tell the USSC what to do, and they're totally just
    wasting time. 5) As the headline makes its rounds, this hurts
    Republicans as a whole

    I was delighted to learn that MI's state house has a Republican
    majority, but it sounds like it's a herd of rinos inside a porcelain
    shop.

    This smells like Elitist Propaganda, which seems to be getting less subtle every day, moving into outright lies and fabrications.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Thursday, February 27, 2025 05:28:22
    arguing that their state's constitution that states that "marriage is union between a man and a woman."

    I have not heard this. I just did a real quick on michiganvotes.org and saw nothing related to marriage.

    I think I found it on foxnews yesterday, but here's another article about it: https://tinyurl.com/rinosmi

    This smells like Elitist Propaganda, which seems to be getting less
    subtle every day, moving into outright lies and fabrications.

    Either way, it is propaganda. It's either to ruin Republicans, or it's to give the governor a talking point (or both.) I've never been to Michigan, but I'm sure that there's nobody writing to their state rep to complain about gay marriage.

    "Dear rep: don't worry about the illegal immigrants, the fentanyl, or the gang violence, just help us ban gay marriage." (Delusions.)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thursday, February 27, 2025 09:17:00
    I read that 7 Republican state house members in Michigan are sponsoring a resolution to challenge the USSC's decision on equal marriage, arguing that their state's constitution that states that "marriage is a union between a man
    and a woman."

    There is an unfortunate belief that the USSC will overturn their decision
    and remove the federal protection, so there are some states trying to position themselves for becoming places that it becomes illegal should the decision
    be overturned.

    I agree it seems like a stupid thing to be focused on right now.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Thursday, February 27, 2025 14:13:26
    There is an unfortunate belief that the USSC will overturn their decision and remove the federal protection, so there are some states trying to position themselves for becoming places that it becomes illegal should
    the decision be overturned.

    But these nutty state Republicans in MI know better. They know that the queen will never sign off on it, that they're making leftists hate them even more, that they're alienating gay Republicans, and that they're ruining the Republican party.

    There's a 0% chance that constituents are asking for this. It's a strategic, undercover, RINO operation, sponsored by Democrats who are worried about their state because of the 2024 presidential election results.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, February 28, 2025 07:12:09
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Either way, it is propaganda. It's either to ruin Republicans, or it's
    to give the governor a talking point (or both.) I've never been to Michigan, but I'm sure that there's nobody writing to their state rep
    to complain about gay marriage.

    That's what I'm thinking. No one cares about gay marriage right now.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Friday, February 28, 2025 08:37:00
    There is an unfortunate belief that the USSC will overturn their decision
    and remove the federal protection, so there are some states trying to position themselves for becoming places that it becomes illegal should the decision be overturned.

    But these nutty state Republicans in MI know better. They know that the queen will never sign off on it, that they're making leftists hate them even more, that they're alienating gay Republicans, and that they're ruining the Republican party.

    If they have enough of a majority, they don't need the Governor's
    signature. This is what happens when people vote for a bunch of people who thump the bible but really just want to make others miserable.

    There's a 0% chance that constituents are asking for this. It's a strategic, undercover, RINO operation, sponsored by Democrats who are worried about their
    state because of the 2024 presidential election results.

    See above. I am sure there are some religious fundies in Michigan, just
    like everywhere else, who are all about "sticking it to the gays" or
    whoever else they don't like this week.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Friday, February 28, 2025 08:13:00
    Either way, it is propaganda. It's either to ruin Republicans, or it's to give the governor a talking point (or both.) I've never been to Michigan, but I'm sure that there's nobody writing to their state rep
    to complain about gay marriage.

    That's what I'm thinking. No one cares about gay marriage right now.

    The religious fundies, who vote Republican, always care about gay marriage, abortion, and a lot of other stuff that isn't important right now.

    "What about the children?!?"


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Friday, February 28, 2025 10:56:22
    that they're alienating gay Republicans, and that they're ruining the Republican party.

    If they have enough of a majority, they don't need the Governor's signature. This is what happens when people vote for a bunch of people who thump the bible but really just want to make others miserable.

    Are you sure about that? The state congress (or whatever it's called per state) can do things without approval from the governor? That sounds like it would be a good policy under normal circumstances (this isn't normal.)

    See above. I am sure there are some religious fundies in Michigan, just like everywhere else, who are all about "sticking it to the gays" or whoever else they don't like this week.

    I never knew about such funding but I'll take your word for it. I recently found out that Catholic Charities is (allegedly) funding legal aid for illegal immigrants and that the pope is (definitely) encouraging illegal migration to the USA. So it wouldn't be too surprising if they're also behind this anti-gay stuff.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, March 01, 2025 07:56:54
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Are you sure about that? The state congress (or whatever it's called
    per state) can do things without approval from the governor? That
    sounds like it would be a good policy under normal circumstances (this isn't normal.)

    States are usually set up like mini versions of the Federal gov't. Same branches. Same powers. This was something that came to light during the scamdemic when the RINO who "lead" the Michigan Congress said that they can't do anything because "the governor didn't convene congress", which is total BS.

    I never knew about such funding but I'll take your word for it. I
    recently found out that Catholic Charities is (allegedly) funding legal aid for illegal immigrants and that the pope is (definitely)
    encouraging illegal migration to the USA. So it wouldn't be too
    surprising if they're also behind this anti-gay stuff.

    Remember that the Wokies' standard playbook is to label their stuff like their opponents. So they create a "catholic" charity that has nothing to do with the church and does nothing "catholic".

    But with the Woke Pope today, they might have plenty to do with the church.

    I wonder how many of these charities will survive without our tax dollars.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Saturday, March 01, 2025 11:13:00
    If they have enough of a majority, they don't need the Governor's signature. This is what happens when people vote for a bunch of people who thump the bible but really just want to make others miserable.

    Are you sure about that? The state congress (or whatever it's called per state
    can do things without approval from the governor? That sounds like it would be
    a good policy under normal circumstances (this isn't normal.)

    That is normal in most states that I know of. It is called overriding a
    veto. They do it in my state, they do it in neighboring states, and they do
    it on the Federal level. Does the NY state legislature not have the power
    to override a governor's veto?

    If they have enough of a majority, the Governor can veto it rather than
    sign it, and then the legislature has a chance to override the veto and
    make it law anyway.

    See above. I am sure there are some religious fundies in Michigan, just like everywhere else, who are all about "sticking it to the gays" or whoever else they don't like this week.

    I never knew about such funding but I'll take your word for it. I recently found out that Catholic Charities is (allegedly) funding legal aid for illegal
    immigrants and that the pope is (definitely) encouraging illegal migration to the USA. So it wouldn't be too surprising if they're also behind this anti-gay
    stuff.

    Not "funding" but "fundies" as in fundamentalists. There are plenty of
    them around who like sticking it to whoever they think is "in sin" while
    hoping no one looks too closely at whatever underhanded stuff they get up
    to during the 6.5 days a week they are not in church.

    Gays, leftists, people who are not religious enough to suit them, people of other religions, single moms, etc., are all sinful to them and they have no issue with their voted-upon representative (likely Republican) sticking it to those groups.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Saturday, March 01, 2025 10:15:58
    per state) can do things without approval from the governor? That sounds like it would be a good policy under normal circumstances (thi isn't normal.)

    States are usually set up like mini versions of the Federal gov't. Same branches. Same powers. This was something that came to light during the scamdemic when the RINO who "lead" the Michigan Congress said that they can't do anything because "the governor didn't convene congress", which
    is total BS.

    I wasn't aware of this. Can the US congress override the president's veto on things?

    I'll have to read up on NY's policies. If the NY state legislature is capable of overriding the governor, then they ought to do so. (But they probably wouldn't because they're all on George's nipple.)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Saturday, March 01, 2025 10:19:58
    That is normal in most states that I know of. It is called overriding a veto. They do it in my state, they do it in neighboring states, and
    they do it on the Federal level. Does the NY state legislature not have the power to override a governor's veto?

    Yea, I never knew about this. I just found on NY's website that this is the case in NY too. But the slimeballs who make up our legislature would never do such a thing because they're all fed by the same pet shop owner.

    Gays, leftists, people who are not religious enough to suit them, people of other religions, single moms, etc., are all sinful to them and they have no issue with their voted-upon representative (likely Republican) sticking it to those groups.

    I don't doubt that this happens, but I just haven't seen or heard of any cases of it. A friend of mine recently told me that he don't like Trump because of Trump's "Christian nationalist agenda," but that's another thing that I'm not at all familiar with.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Saturday, March 01, 2025 13:32:00
    That is normal in most states that I know of. It is called overriding a veto. They do it in my state, they do it in neighboring states, and they do it on the Federal level. Does the NY state legislature not have the power to override a governor's veto?

    Yea, I never knew about this. I just found on NY's website that this is the case in NY too. But the slimeballs who make up our legislature would never do such a thing because they're all fed by the same pet shop owner.

    We learned about vetos and overrides during multiple years of my grade and secondary education, in US History and Civics classes.

    Gays, leftists, people who are not religious enough to suit them, people of other religions, single moms, etc., are all sinful to them and they have no issue with their voted-upon representative (likely Republican) sticking it to those groups.

    I don't doubt that this happens, but I just haven't seen or heard of any cases
    of it. A friend of mine recently told me that he don't like Trump because of Trump's "Christian nationalist agenda," but that's another thing that I'm not at all familiar with.

    Well, I don't know for sure that Trump has a "Christian nationalist agenda" himself but, if you follow any of the MAGA congresspeople (or state legislators) on social media you will see examples. Not sure about the "nationalist" part, but there are quite a few playing to be "Christians"
    while denouncing others based on their judgements of others.

    I guess the "nationalist" part is when they hate on people for their skin
    color or countries of origin.

    Off topic, but you were looking for a place to "argue with lefties," right?
    Try the social media platform called Threads. If you post something that strays off of the left... or MAGA... narrative at all, you will draw a
    whole lot of folks to argue with you real quick! ;)


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Saturday, March 01, 2025 18:16:22
    We learned about vetos and overrides during multiple years of my grade
    and secondary education, in US History and Civics classes.

    It must be a rare occurrence. I've never seen it happen before.

    Well, I don't know for sure that Trump has a "Christian nationalist agenda" himself but, if you follow any of the MAGA congresspeople (or state legislators) on social media you will see examples. Not sure
    about the "nationalist" part, but there are quite a few playing to be "Christians" while denouncing others based on their judgements of others.

    Every politician pretends to be doing what God wants. It's disgraceful, but it sounds cute.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, March 02, 2025 09:23:34
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I wasn't aware of this. Can the US congress override the president's
    veto on things?

    Yup. State congress can override a governor's veto too.

    I'll have to read up on NY's policies. If the NY state legislature is capable of overriding the governor, then they ought to do so. (But they probably wouldn't because they're all on George's nipple.)

    That's part of the problem within the last few decades.

    The branches of gov't decided to "cooperate" more and not press their legally enshrined power when they should.

    Here in Michigan, congress should have convined whether the governor call it or not. Then they should have voted to override all the authority she grabbed. Then they should have started impeachment proceedings.

    But they were all spineless and RINOs, so that didn't happen.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sunday, March 02, 2025 09:22:00
    We learned about vetos and overrides during multiple years of my grade and secondary education, in US History and Civics classes.

    It must be a rare occurrence. I've never seen it happen before.

    It happens a lot when the party that controls the legislature/Congress is different than the party of the governor/President.

    Well, I don't know for sure that Trump has a "Christian nationalist agenda" himself but, if you follow any of the MAGA congresspeople (or state legislators) on social media you will see examples. Not sure about the "nationalist" part, but there are quite a few playing to be "Christians" while denouncing others based on their judgements of others.

    Every politician pretends to be doing what God wants. It's disgraceful, but it
    sounds cute.

    Christian conservatives, and those voted into office by them, do it a lot
    more than any others. Yes it is disgraceful.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sunday, March 02, 2025 20:47:42
    Here in Michigan, congress should have convined whether the governor
    call it or not. Then they should have voted to override all the
    authority she grabbed. Then they should have started impeachment proceedings.

    But they were all spineless and RINOs, so that didn't happen.

    Yea, same here with the bail reform laws, the prioritizing of Paxlovid for non-whites first, the DEI, the mandatory profit sharing with black colleges, etc.

    Spinelessness is a horrible disease, and we need a vaccine for that.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, March 03, 2025 07:12:39
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yea, same here with the bail reform laws, the prioritizing of Paxlovid
    for non-whites first, the DEI, the mandatory profit sharing with black colleges, etc.

    Spinelessness is a horrible disease, and we need a vaccine for that.

    Nature usually takes are of that. Or, in this case, elections.

    Trump and Vance are showing what politicians with a spine look like and that is encouraging the other politians who have a spine to start showing theirs. I don't know how many politians that I've never heard of before standing up and giving it to the Left and their Propaganda Mininstry.

    Elections will take care of the rest. One the public sees the difference, they will vote for what they want. And it probably won't be for jellyfish.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Monday, March 03, 2025 07:19:26
    Spinelessness is a horrible disease, and we need a vaccine for that.

    Nature usually takes are of that. Or, in this case, elections.

    Trump and Vance are showing what politicians with a spine look like and that is encouraging the other politians who have a spine to start
    showing theirs. I don't know how many politians that I've never heard

    I know. It's a great thing.

    It was funny hearing Lindsey Graham puttin his 2 cents into it. He's acting like he's cool now (he ain't really that cool though.) But the good thing is that Lindsey knows what America likes and therefore he's adapting to it.

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